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Retired my 2006 Prius today

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Posted by WhosPlayin on 2007/12/24 12:13:18 (3396 reads)

I have a 2006 Toyota Prius that we bought from Toyota of Lewisville about a year and a half ago. It has only just shy of 19,000 miles on it. Overall, it's been a great car with no major problems and fun to drive.

However, last night when I had finished loading the back full of groceries bought at Target, I walked around to get in and discovered that the left front tire was completely flat.

At first, I thought that perhaps someone had slashed the tire, because it had not been low on the way to the store. So I pulled it slowly out of the parking space, flap-flap-flapping away into a more open part of the parking lot next to a light where I could see how to change the tire.

After removing the lug nuts, I reached around the tire to pull it off, and got several fingers full of prickly steel belt piercing my skin. The tire, as you can see in the photo above (click for larger version) had worn quite unevenly on the inside and could have blown out and injured someone. I was quite lucky to have it go flat in a parking lot.

Anyhow, long story short, all 4 tires were worn beyond where they should have been for the amount of mileage on them. Tires on a brand-new car should last more than 19,000 miles.

This morning, I called the dealership - Toyota of Lewisville, expecting that my super-duper extended bumper-to-bumper warranty would have me covered, at least on a pro-rated basis. Wrong, banana breath. Let me just say that I'm surprised that they were not in the least bit helpful on this. Even with me explaining that the car had less than 19,000 miles, all I got was that "Tire wear varies with your driving habits."

Poo on that. We drive the Prius on city streets. We don't burn out, or race. We take it to the dealer for periodic maintenance. We check the air in the tires now and then. But even if I was peeling out in this car, you'd still expect tires to last at least 40,000 miles.

Well, if you search Google for "Prius tire wear" you see that quite a few other people have had issues with this. It seems that even though you pay nearly $30,000 for this car, Toyota and Goodyear cheap-out on you and put downright crappy tires on it as OEM equipment.

So, I went to a place that I've been trusting for at least 15 years or so: Discount Tire. I spent a little over $400 and got a good set of Pirelli Cinturato P3000 P185/65R-15's It's an 85,000 mile tire, so hopefully they'll last through the first battery replacement.

I like going to Discount Tire because they don't do anything else but tires. They don't play games with up-selling you a bunch of crap. You ask for a set, they give you installed prices with no hassle and get you in and out in a hurry. You get new valve stems, mount and balance, free rotations and a good no-hassle warranty. (I've collected on it a couple of times from road hazards, and two off-brand tires I bought for my van that wore out prematurely)

One of the things I really like about Discount Tire is watching those guys work. They really work fast and efficiently.

Anyhow, I digress. I'm still conflicted about whether I should try to pursue anything with Toyota about compensation for the tires. I know that tires don't last forever, but they should at least last through the third oil change. In the past, I've been impressed with the folks at Toyota of Lewisville, but I'm pretty disappointed today. If I ever buy another car from them, I will definitely get a tire guarantee in writing. I'll let you know how it goes if I pursue anything.

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Anonymous
Posted: 2007/12/25 19:38  Updated: 2007/12/25 19:41
 Re-tired?
When reading the title I thought you had retired a 2 year old Prius, when in fact you had re-tired it :)
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WhosPlayin
Posted: 2007/12/25 19:43  Updated: 2007/12/25 19:43
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 Re: Re-tired?
You got it! Thought it would make a more compelling title for the post. Folks have always said I'm a "pun" in the butt.

Overall though, I am quite happy with the Prius and hope it gives me many more years of service.
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WhosPlayin
Posted: 2007/12/27 16:29  Updated: 2007/12/27 16:29
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 Cabin Air Filter
I took my little green buddy to the Toyota dealership today to get it's third oil change. As I was waiting in the lobby, I observed a little racket going on. Basically every customer in the lobby would get approached by a service technician carrying dirty air filters, both the engine air filter and the cabin air filter for the AC.

The technician would quote some outrageous price to replace it, and all of these yuppies would just okay it without asking questions.

When the technician came in with my dirty air filters, I knew what was coming. $53 something was the regular price to replace an approximately 10" by 10" pleated woven cabin air filter that looked like it should cost about $2. I was in "luck" though, because they were running a special for only $34.99.

I was thinking "Are you crazy?" but I said "I'll pass for now, and try to find one cheaper." You should have seen the look on the guy's face. He had come in looking quite proud that my air filter was full of elm tree "shit" - leaves and seeds and stuff. It was quite filthy.

On the way home, I stopped by AutoZone and picked one up for $21. All you do is open the glove compartment, squeeze the sides together and lower the door. There's a little shock absorber-looking doohickey on the right side that you have to pop off too. Once you get the door down, there's a white plastic tray that slides out and has the filter in it. No tools are required.

So, I pull the filter out, and see that it still is full of loose tree leavings. The guy didn't even shake it out. I put the new one in, and took the old one to see if I could clean it.

Well, 2 minutes at the kitchen sink, and it's as good as new. So now I have a spare filter AND I saved some money.

Hope this can save the Prius owners out there a few bucks.
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WhosPlayin
Posted: 2008/1/10 17:53  Updated: 2008/1/10 17:53
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Got a call from the manager of the lube center, who apologized and said he would talk to the employee. I felt bad because I don't see it as an employee problem. Obviously management is pushing them to sell filters and such. Who can blame them for trying? Too bad it's come to that.
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Anonymous
Posted: 2007/12/28 16:28  Updated: 2007/12/29 9:04
 Truths
You have observed two truths:

1. The stock OEM tires are almost always total crap. Had a similar experience with my '99 Forester when I bought it new.

2. Dealer service departments are almost always sleaze bags. It's not uncommon for a dealer to give you a good price on the car, because they know they're going to rip you off 10 fold on service.
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Anonymous
Posted: 2007/12/29 0:12  Updated: 2007/12/29 8:59
 prius tire wear
One secret to getting the higher gas mileage promised by a hybrid like the Prius is low rolling resistance tires.The tradeoff is faster tire wear. Your new tires may wear longer,but your fuel mileage may suffer.Tires are typically warranted by the tire manufacturer not the car manufacturer.
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WhosPlayin
Posted: 2007/12/29 9:02  Updated: 2007/12/29 9:02
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 Re: prius tire wear
Very interesting. I have noticed that the new tires seem to get a couple miles less per gallon. I want to conserve fuel, but I don't think I break even if I'm spending $400 a year on tires. That's not to mention the safety issue.

The pressure specified for the Prius is 35 psi front, 33 psi rear. I wonder whether that could safely be adjusted a little higher to get the mileage boost?
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WhosPlayin
Posted: 2008/1/10 17:55  Updated: 2008/1/10 17:55
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 Re: prius tire wear
Update: A friend of mine who owns a Prius told me that his OEM tires got almost 50K. He over-inflates to 38 in front, 35 in the rear.
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Posted: 2008/1/18 18:02  Updated: 2008/1/18 22:33
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Hey Who's...
Have the dealer check out the rear axle specs. I'll bet they are out of alingment. I've been told that it can't be aligned and that the whole unit needs replaced?
I am still in the inspection stages but would love to hear what they tell you. With our 2005 Prius we were told we need 3rd set of tires at 48,000 miles. Same story under/over inflation driving habits rotation... blah BLAH.
There is something wrong with the car!
Good luck
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Posted: 2008/7/31 4:15  Updated: 2008/7/31 4:42
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I just put a third set of tires on my 2006 Prius and I only have 29000 miles. the oem tires wore out around 12000, and the replacements that were rated for 70000 only got me as far as 17000. Something is seriously wrong with these cars. I drive only on city streets, and I'm in no way aggressive on the road. (other than that I love my Prius)
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Posted: 2008/11/9 16:01  Updated: 2008/11/9 17:28
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I have 140,000 on my 2004 and am on my 4th set of tires. Original equipment is poor at best. They lack rain grip along with poor wear characteristics. I now run Goodyear Advantage and find them good for 48-50,000. Goodyear even gave me a 25% discount for early wear on my 1st set. These are LRR rated and ride fine at factory air settings. I tried to run higher air pressures but had a rougher ride and no discernable increase in mileage. Wife has 35,000 on her 1st set of tires on her 2005 Prius and I will also go with Advantage on hers. Rain and snow grip is significantly better.
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Posted: 2009/8/2 6:34  Updated: 2009/8/2 9:05
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Bought a 2010 Prius 7/24/09. Less than 10 miles from the dealship on my way home, the left rear sidewall of the Yokohma blew out in Friday afternoon rush to the beach traffic. Must say the Prius still handled well. The salesman came out and put the spare on. The Yokohama is supposed to be an improvement????
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